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The search never stopped. Welcome to the Sasquatch Experience. Hello, get somebody out here and welcome everyone to the Sasquatch Experience for Monday, September twenty second, twenty twenty five, Episode one hundred and thirty seven. Guys, we squatching. That's the name wow of tonight's episode. So how are you, guys? It's been a little bit everything going well on your ends so far? Yeah, I mean we're on a weather roller coaster where one day it's one, and the next day it's fifty, and then the following day it's you know, twenty four, and then the next day it's up in the forty. So yeah, it's a weather roller coaster here. Yeah, definitely happens. Definitely part of the problem there vance with sinuses and sicknesses and everything else going around out there. But tis the season to be jolly follow la la la, thinking of which, due to an oversight, our last show has finally been uploaded a podcast form today. So for those of you who are last minute shoppers, you do have the third annual Shoppers Guide for the special Squadron in your life dropping it the last minute. For those who peruse the podcast, it's there. Hurry up and get it done, have you it? Don't complain it in under the tree. Yeah, you know, not to change the subject, but you know, generally the second biggest shopping season is right after Chris was because. Everyone yes, sorts, yep, right, Yeah, gift cards and everybody wants to return stuff and it's something that they really wanted. Yes, and they generally they generally buy forty more than they did the gift card was worth. That's why I get a really good commodity for stores. Right, It's pretty true. Whoa wow? Man? The first time that word has been used on this. To wow it's a family friendly show. It was the first time that word has been used on this channel, James Boker, So, uh, shame on you, Shane. They're still overnight shipping. And of course, as you saw the messages and the hello's rolling in from our audience, Guy's good evening, Scott our good man, Scott There Steve Hyde who was listening, but I think he fell asleep. He's gonna watch tomorrow because you know, we do have that tendency to put people to sleep. Yeah, but from. Back to time we love saying, yeah, don't we have a belated birthday to throw out to somebody Brian something or other. Yeah, our ep Brian Corbin is uh, you know, happy birthday, Brian. We all got you earlier, but we'd like to get you again on the air and make it formal and official. As Matt Arner sparting the Amish look this week, it's for a good cause, folks, it's for a good cause. Oh look, hey, that hat will fit over your headphones. Matt, don't try it. There it is. See there we go. Yeah, there's the Amish look. He's uh, Matt butter Maker. Yes, Matt Buttermaker. Yes. Not to be confused with the other Matt. That makes something a lot of bullshit sometimes. Anyhow, Wow, language that flies's you know, it's been a rough couple of weeks for us, guys. You know, we have to be remiss if we didn't talk about the passing of Steven Stroyferd guest on our program. Yep, back on the six. I can't believe it's been you know, fourteen fifty sixteen days already. It's you know, quite a shock to some of us age of sixty. If you weren't familiar with Steven Stroifrit was the purveyor of Bigfoot books before it unfortunately burnt to the ground. He was the admin of the Coalition for Critical Thinking and Bigfoot Research on Facebook and a member of the Bluff Creek Project, big contributor to the field of sasquatchery, passed away age sixty guys, And you know, we were just I was just starting to know Steve and have conversations with him, and he was planning on doing a part two with us, and we were gonna, you know, be on with more Patterson Gimlin discussion and other things. And so you know, as we always say, and many others have say, you know, tomorrow's aren't guarantees, so seize the moments when you can, folks. Sad news, and this has just been a hell of a year for this as losing those Yes, we have lost quite a few this year, and I helped twenty twenty six put some brakes on that. Well. Yeah, indeed, you know we lost Fred Salucas well a few weeks ago, and it's just doctor Meldrum. The list goes on. And of course it's hard to not mention, folks, because you know, I went back and forth rather I was going to bring this up or not, because you know, I was personally attacked on our on my personal page by doctor John Barnchuck, and uh, when I posted our tribute, I don't even want to say a tribute to Steven Streifferd. I just posted our interview with him so folks could kind of get a semblance of the idea of the kind of person he was, because I really felt it was a good interview. And then all of a sudden it became a you know, we're part of the problem out there that promoting people over the research. And I took great, great umbrage with that. And you know, it takes a lot for me to get riled up. Not younger Fork or I had a fought you, you know, real quick, but this one, I kind of it just set me off. And it's hard because guys, while we promote the subject and want to talk about bigfoot research and that's really where we should be focused, that people are just as important. And you've heard me say it, I'm just a footnote in this story, you know, a paragraph on a page somewhere that's going to be written in this monumental story of the discovery of Sasquatch. And you know, those of us that have had a high stakes in that, are have really had a part in that, are very worthy of being mentioned and very worthy of being discussed, and without us, without the people searching, no one else is doing it, and there's no story. There's no story. So yeah, maybe we are a little guilty of that. And but that's you know, I don't hold that guilt, and I don't think that we promote it more than we promote the research. And I think that's where the difference is. And you know the problem I have is when you've got an asshole like that guy, is that you know, when he failed on his own mission and his book grasping sascock or whatever he calls it. Oh, but I can't think, uh. You know, you know, he you know, didn't took it, didn't take a moment to promote that. In the thread when we were arguing, Diddy, you know, mentioned oh, my book, And you know, when you failed just as much as everybody else is I think for some reason, when you have a PhD or something, it hurts more when you lose. Yeah, and when you can't prove anything that his scientific way, which by the way, is no different than anybody others scientific way. He just put in a book and was proud of it. And you know, we should all be proud of books. But was it a New York Times bestseller? I don't know, but uh, you know, to attack us because we do focus on the contributors and we think it's support. It was just stupid and it was probably the guess mistake he'd make, because when you make an enemy of me, I don't go away lightly. In fact, most of the time I win in ways that are just you know, well, we don't need to get into that. But yeah, well, considering the fact we've made what almost three quarters of a million dollars, right, isn't that? Yeah? Right? Money? Sure? Making money off this field. I would love to any folks, any of you want to see our balance sheets, I'd be glad to show you how much. They all have a minus sign in front of the dollar amount. We don't make enough through advertising to even pay for our studio. I pay for that myself, And so you know, let's not talk like we're making thousands of dollars on a podcast talking about Bigfoot. First of all, it's a niche subject, right, Like we knew going into this it wasn't going to be a profit maker. This has already been for fun and it's been a passion thing right, and for fun. It's not about the money, right. And an outlet for us to talk about you know, what we do in our journey and people listen, or we wouldn't be doing it. We probably would do it if nobody was listening anyhow, because it's fun to get together and talk. But you know, why do people like that guy who fail in their own quests wipe out on their way out? You know, it's always the same mo. I'm better than you, I'm scientific than you, My work is critical. You're all clowns, yet we all end up at the same space. Yeah, James, I really think the problem isn't as much the research or the researchers. I think it's staying relevant when you feel you have to be. Like, there's a few of us that I love as a person, and I'm not going to mention their name, but like it seems like whenever someone's not thinking them directly or they get it at a certain level, they either find a way to sabotaze themselves or go completely off the rails so that someone will pay attention to them. I mean, away us the older class. Big footers to me remind me of influencers. If they're not getting the clicks, then we have to make a noise. But like I like, there. Are certain people in this community that I wouldn't. Pay to see them talk. Not because I don't believe in them, not because whatever, but I know that if I show up at the bar at ten thirty, they're gonna give me that whole conversation and twenty more I wanted, and I didn't pay. I didn't pay seventy five bucks to see him. But then the opposite was like Meldrum, who I loved, and anybody ever said anything bad about Meldrum, don't do it near me, Okay. But the thing is is like he was a guy that I ran into randomly, but when he talked. If I could get a ticket, I just sat through it. Whether I forty times he was he was an honestly good man. And that's what upsessed me a lot of time about this field is is there's some honestly good people that believe what they believe and they're doing what they can and they get shit on because of the subject matter. Like like BEFO, I'll tell you I'm the. Same with Coleman. I'm the same with Coleman. I know what Coleman is. Don't get me wrong, He's. Not a He's he Bigfoot is a business. He believes what he believes, and he reads what he reads and he knows what he's talking about. But at the end of the day, when they all go, well he's a huckster and blah blah blah, no, no, no, he made a deal with you because it's a business first, a passion sector. Right, you know, you know with uh, doctor Meldrum, I don't believe that he got into this community to be in the community. Evidence was brought to him, and he had taken a lot of interest in the evidence that was brought to him and research it, and that's what really set him off on this path. I don't believe that doctor Meldrum, you know, said you know what, I want to get into the bigfoot research field. The evidence was brought to him. And as far as Lauren Coleman is concerned, I have to give Lauren Coleman the kudos to the fact he's the one that brought me into this field. Because the first book I purchased from him was Cryptozoology A through Z and I bought that book and I started reading it and I'm like, Wow, this is really interesting stuff. And that's what brought me into the field. So there's kind of a different correlation between those two gentlemen. But I have to agree with you, James. You know, these guys were not really set up to, oh, we're gonna just be the dominant celebrities and everybody's just gonna drop to a knee and bow down before us. No, that really never was their intent at all. No. And you know, and so when I bring this back to us and you know, the accusations that we just you know, is this a cash play? You know, I think it's important we start, you know, we remind people why we're into this, you know. And and I'll allow you guys the opportunity. But for me, we got a train coming now, it's the Holiday train, uh Express. It's not a show without a train. Yeah, anyhow, and you know, for me, and I think, you know, we'll transition to investigation bigfoot here in a little bit, Matt that I think we cap it off pretty nicely. And for me, it's that there's people seeing something they can't explain, and they're everyday people like you and me who had no interest in the subject. Whatsoever. We're going through their normal, everyday lives and seeing something they can't explain or see something that's not supposed to exist, and it changed their life. So they got on the internet and found some people that they want to talk to about it. And that's why I stay in this to talk to those people, to let them know that, hey, yep, there's a good chance you're not crazy. You know that you're seeing something other people are seeing and reporting, And that's why I stay in it. Listen, I have a real job, I have family, I have friends. A lot of my friends are associated with this field, but I have a lot of friends that aren't associated with this field. But I'll tell you what. There came a point in time where people stop laughing about me looking for bigfoot, and we're really interested as the why or why do you do it? Why have you spent a good part of your life? And I'll tell you you know, and for me, there's a science behind it. There really is. And for those that say we're unscientific or whatnot, I have an ample sized posterior. You could puck her up and. Yeah, true, you know. I have a work associate that had no idea of anything of the Sasquatch and and he's headquartered in Grand Rapids, Michigan, and he came down to us, to the facility. Anyway, the whole conversation came up with this podcast that we're doing, and he's like, what. I spent an hour and a half with him, and at the end of the hour and a half, he was like, I had no idea this was going on. This is absolutely fascinating to me. And now when I just saw him a couple of weeks ago, well not even a couple of weeks ago, about a week ago, he came down, you know, to do his business again, and I just so happened to be wearing my God Knocker shirt and he's like, got any new stuff on the Sasquatch. I'm like, yeah, I always do. Always reach out to me. I will give you information that will you know, open up your mind to the possibility of all of this. He's like, I find this so fascinating just having that one person just kind of step over the line and say, Wow, this is insane. This this could actual be a thing. And my day is made. I mean, I just get in my vehicle and I drive away with a big old grin on my face because hey, somebody else has now taken interest in this, just by all the evidence I presented to him. You know, does anybody else chuckle when they call it the Sasquatch. One? Right, Yeah, there's only one. It's not a nessy. That's true. You know, Scott our good friend posts. I don't think that anyone who truly are trying to legitimately research improve sasquatch exists is in it for the money. And you know that's true. Yes, you're not going to be a good Scott. Yeah, it's a good point. Plus on the high end. But like when you think about that and players in the. Game, they're not on the high end. Believe no, Cliff Cliff doesn't engagements to fund the museum. Yeah yeah, and that's and you think about that, but that's pouring it back into a passion. Yes, dollar we make that we're not donating. They're given away by the way the people goes into the show. Yep. I have to quickly give a shout out to Ken Gerhardt. Unexpectedly he had sent me after he did our show, unexpectedly sent me his Mothman book that he and you know he signed it for me and I was like, wow, that was a wonderful surprise. I really appreciated that. So thanks to Ken if he happens to be watching, and I did send him a thank you through a text. But you know, that goes into part of my collection of everybody else that has sent me books that were autographed to me from you know, Ryan Sprague and Lyon Strickler and Shannon and it just the list goes on. But yeah, I wanted to throw that out there. That was very nice aken to do that. But again, you talk about people who accused of profiting and making money off this. You know, this is how folks pay for their research. None of us are funded by National Geographic or independently uber wealthy where we could continue to do this without a real job, like I can't. I want a job. No, I can't either, right, And. I think you know, again, we go into these and we have to spend time on it to talk aboutnefolks that go up to the big Foot, everything to do with big fun Can you come and listen to these podcasts? And I don't want people to be contaminated with the fact that, oh, you know, they make money off this. We don't make money. Nope, no, no, we spend a lot of money. We've donated a lot of money. Yes, we do. And speaking of donating money, go to sasquatch Experience dot com go to what page there sean to do Squatch out Hunger before Christmas? Yeah, well we have actually it ends tonight. Yeah, at midnight we pull it down and we still have some more to send in and that's in one of our other funds to send over. So by the time we're done, we'll have like I think it's six hundred and thirty six dollars that we've made. Okay, Squatch out Hunger. That's wonderful, you know, which was sure that buys a lot of groceries. Well, listen, you know, we we had an ambitious goal this year, but we also didn't predict a government shutdown, and we didn't predict you know, right, you know, lots of things that affected families. So I'm happy with that number. But even if with our listeners, even even if you go outside of the boundaries of you know, the squatch on Hunger and you want to donate to a food pantry on our behalf, just do it. We don't have to have our name attached to it, not at all. Just do it, even if it's a box of cheese it crackers, just do it. We'll send the cheese its to Baker and I. But you know, everything else you can do. I'm going through my box here. We love Jesus. Yeah, we all love takes. It's favorite. What were you going to say, buddy, No, I was. I was just going to add to even individually. I don't want to say too much. I was asked to do a big festival in the summertime. I'm not going to give too much information yet until every all the inkstride. But uh. They asked about how we're to stay. They were going to put me up in a hotel. They asked about speaking fee. They asked about what else they can they can give, and I said, listen, I said, I have a camper. You know, it's about an hour and fifteen minutes away. I'm good the speaking that I as you know, I'm a detective with the with the or a police department, so I deal with a lot of crimes against children. So there is an outfit called the Child's Advocacy Center, and they're usually in just about every county or some of the bigger counties. So the county that's adjacent to where this festival is, my speaking fee is getting donated. We did the the Eric Altman's Pennsylvania a Bigfoot camping Adventure. Uh I you know, he said, hey, I have money here for you for for travel. I said, I'm giving that directly to the Fayette County Friends of Animals, So I'm not doing it for the money at all. Just last the last show, we were talking about I have a thousand dollars a gm uh thermal. You know how I got that. I got that from working overtime shifts all right, you know, from from putting myself out there, you know, doing patrol shifts that you know, uh from seven seven at night to seven in the morning to pay for the equipment that I use. And I had to work a lot of shifts for that. So but I I know that I'm going to put that to good use. Matt. Does that not mean more to you than somebody giving you the money to purchase that? Oh? Absolutely, Yeah, that's the point. When you work for it, it means so much more to you, and it brings more pride into the fact of what it is that you're doing. So yeah, kudos to you, brother. And again as a whole, this is what we do. You know, like I said, if it is about money, it's about money that we're that we're raising to to give back, you know, scoatch out hunger, going to the Child Advocacy Center, h going to animal groups. And I know, like Sean, yeah, I mean you you know, have done so much for the safe house and and uh you do have to at some point introduce your new partner. In trans Yes, my baby. Yes, But but then again, like I said, we're we're doing it for things like that, and you know we're again we're we're about going out there. I know with me, my my particular fondness is being out there boots on the ground, you know, out and and that in itself. You don't have to pay me to to to go sit in the in the middle of the state forest out in Potter County. I do that. Yeah. Right, It's just like and. I'm gonna say this, it's just like with Henry, you know, you can't. You know, Henry has such a passion for the history and for the uh for the bush start coming out. You don't have to pay him for that because he loves Sean. You love everything that that we've been doing. You know, Faker, you're the you know, uh, the one that keeps us kind of grounded in advance. You know, you bring that voice out and uh everything, a lot of knowledge on other uh cryptos outside. So you know, collectively, we all we all bring some but we don't need to get paid if you know, we'd be doing this on our own. Well, thanks Matt, and we appreciate that very much. That's a great sentiment. Thank you. I never get tired of hearing about how great we are, so keep going on. I'm kenning. Yeah, the research life isn't glamorous. So what are the things that one might do to bring up to the next generation. Yeah, that's a that's a great question, Scott. And you've asked some good questions there. We'll get through them. I think to the next generation, it's I think learning how to be better stewards of what we do. First of all, pick up a damn book and read know the history of the subject and the people that have helped build the history of the subject, Because you don't have to ask questions when you know the answers already find new questions and find yourself a mentor, somebody who's trustworthy and semi intelligent to help you understand how to navigate the field and spend time in the field. Learn more than just about bigfoot, learn more about nature. I think that's the big one. If you can help navigate the wilderness and navigate the animal life, you do yourself a much better service than just bigfoot. And always be prepared. Yeah. And the other thing too is be happy with what you find out there, even if it's not Bigfoot related. And I'm gonna circle all the way back to Stephen Streyfer and he's with the Bluff Creek Project and what did they do. They didn't find bigfoot, but they found a new species of martin And which is which is? You know? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I mean it's a little things like that. If you're reaching out to someone, to someone that's that's younger or wants to get involved with it, take those uh, take those wins when you find that, you know, And like I said, the Bluff Project, they are they're just fantastic people. And you never know what you're gonna find at you know, along your journey. I oddly enough found turkeys. I was done my game cams and never Okay, my property, I'm as I can get most of the pictures dumped down. I've been converting them because I have a lot of the same picture because the wind for the camera, which. I learned a lot about cameras too. But either way, I'll dump some of them onto my page so you guys can look at them. But I found we had foxes turkeys. Okay, I gotcha? Hey, am I reading this correctly? Is Alex? Uh? Alex? You're the best brother? We love Alex? Do for Alex? What do I have? I have the I have the am shot for him. However, your beard just doesn't compare to his. Now he's got the beard he does Beardie. This camera keeps zooming in and out on me. It's bothering the hell out of me. I have the thing. Oh I don't see that, But that's okay. We got another question from Scott. How do you inspire others to become interested in the subject and puts boots on the ground and do the scientific research so it's becoming That's that's the catch twenty two. Because there's a lot of people allured with the myths of big footing and the other cryptids where they become much more enamored with the fantasy and everything's a bigfoot and everything's a dog man, and everything's circled in a photograph. We really have a lot of contenders to go up against in that in that field, and what I feel needs to be the difference is what I said, we need to get folks educated and then get them on I know, right smiling because Alex wants to go back to that market. Yes, that makes me smile. Absolutely. You get people educated and excited about being in the woods is the first thing. That's that's the key, and then everything else kind of locks into place. Yep. Once you get bitten by that bigfoot bug, it's hard to get rid of it. Yes. And another thing too, and again this is for for the next generation, is sometimes you have to stop looking and but just be out there. Get invault with the with the trail maintenance group. If for big footing, uh, if you're looking for a racetown ray uh you know, or another yeah, another like lake or ocean going en cryptid, Yeah, champ get in fault with like a like a beside clean up or do something like that that you're out in the water because a lot of it's when you're out there looking you know, yeah, you know, but it's when you're not you know, and yeah, kind of mining your own business and you know, cleaning up a trail or cleaning up trash on the side of the b shot. You might be that's the unexpected events that happened, right. I think that's a good segue into our new segments when we come back. We can finish up the show with talking about the wrap up of investigation Bigfoot Map. So folks stick around. We'll be right back right after this a little bull horn from Vance and Nesbitt new Steed. A Symbo. Christmas dinner is actually a little easier now than my girlfriend's family are. Oh vcan because I used to do a full tucky dinner with all the trimmings for everyone, but now they do I'll in find it. It's one guy over there goes fucking yes. Ah, yes, well tiss the season for family fighting. Fa la la la la, la, la la la. My Christmas gift to you is I will not sing anymore. So there you go. Happy holiday seasons to all of our listeners. I hope you are having a very festive time of year. And you know, we look forward to sharing everything that we have in our bag of tricks, but we don't do tricks here, and if we do, it's by sheer accident. So anyway, since this is the season of joy, let's share a story that we'll put a silver lining to a notable Christmas bigfoot report from twenty twenty four on Christmas Eve, Unfortunately, two Oregon men who tragically died from exposure in one Washington's Gifford Pinaut National Forest after going missing on Christmas Eve hunt for sasquatch. The search involved more than sixty search and rescue folks along with canine dogs well that's what a canine is, drones, and even the Coastguard. However, their bodies were found dead from hypothermia. Beyond this tragic event, Christmas often appears in bigfoot reports, either due to sightings around the holiday season. There was a report around Christmas of two thousand and nine in Illinois, according to the BFRO that logged a memory told report of a sasquatch standing in headlights near Saint Jacob on Christmas Eve, part of many Illinois reports, including other two thousand and nine incidences like a daylight sighting near Hammel, showing consistent local interest in potential Bigfoot encounters. Now, as we continue, there was a report from Peak News magazine out of British Columbia, or simply referring to the town of Christmas, Florida, where a sighting occurred in twenty twelve. So to follow up with the two young men that were found dead of hypothermia, I guess our gift to you is always keep in mind, be prepared. Always bring more than what you may need because you may need it. Fuzzy underwear, warm clothes, thermal socks, bring things to start a fire weed. Always make sure you have some sort of communication with you, whether it's two way radio or cellular or satellite device. But always be prepared. And I know most all of our researchers already know this, but an enthusiast that may listen to the show and say, ooh, I want to go out and look for big Foot. Well, if it's bad weather, and it could be not a winter season, it could just be heavy rains and you can get hypothermia just from being over soaked. So be careful out there. And that's all we want for you. We want everybody to go have an adventure and come back and share your reports in living form. When we come back, we're going to open up a box of up and coming things for twenty twenty six to look forward to. See you're listening to the big football horned right here on the Sasquatch experience. As anybody ever told you. Hey, nice knockers. If not, just visit got knockers dot org. Read about the encounter that kick this whole thing off. Plus you can purchase one, two, three, or more tree Knockers. I'm not sure what you thought we were talking about. 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The Smoky Mountain Bigfoot Festival that's also in May, and of course Bigfoot Days Daze at Willow Creek, California, which is happening in July, and of course offering speakers and vendors and music and family funds celebrating the legendary creature. And as time draws closer, I will be giving more information on these events. Happy Holidays to all of you from us here at the Bigfoot bull Horn and Anomalous Entertainment's Sasquatch Experience. And as always, until we meet again, keep your toe. In them mind. And we're bad. Thanks Vance for the Big Football Horn this week late Tits, Late tits now got also and also. Brings in new phrase, I may use a lot more squatch bag. Squatch Oh fascinating. Hey Henry, how why are your buddy? Looks like you're back at it with us tonight. Yes, squatch bag, Oh wow, wow, the love amongst this community only cow squatching. Bag watching Henry's like a silent movie. Squatch Watch Beyond the Footprint in Randall, Washington will take place September twenty fifth to twenty seventh, and you can camp for the weekend. I love it. Got some participants in the chat tonight, our good friend Jimmy, Alex Pettikov, Central Kentucky, Bigfoot, Scott Dearley, all kinds of folks in here tonight. Great to see our friends, and we're glad you joined us. Investigation Big fo It, Matt Yes and team uh. You know the project Matt and I were working on back earlier in the fall. I believe has finally come to conclusion. Yeah, what are your thoughts? I'm hoping there was a that they do one more with like a you know clips that didn't make it on the episode. I mean the one And I'm gonna gonna say this now since since it was uh uh you know, well talked about. But we had that elk that that we saw on the field, no, and then and Aaron's out there, you know, he was like shrike out of the car and that elk team right in front of the car. We got some great pictures and he got that video. And the one thing that we uh that we discussed when we were talking about is here, and that was a bull elk, you know, probably a younger bullock, but still over one thousand pounds. And how uh once he got into the once he got into the field, how was able to blend in and a thousand pound animal and we had problems keeping track of where it was right, it moved quick and it moved through that uh silently brush. Yeah, And it was really just uh that there would have been good to get out to the public that you know, again, here's a live shot, you know, well a film shot of this thousand pound animal you know, going through and you lose it, you know, so for just how how things or animals or people or others can hide. You know, I I have to uh, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt, but I did send Seth breedlove a text day before yesterday that at some point I would love to have And this goes back to what Scotch has posted. Uh, let's have a fail video of a just make a collection of all the fail because you got to bring a little bit of fun into all of this too, and to see the reality behind all of this. Yeah. Yeah, some of the best ones weren't filmed, like Matt almost taking a header. Yeah yeah, I'm gonna tell you my uh my arch nemesis. Uh that entire time through the filming up of the episode were the stairs between almost almost taking a flip over last day when I was freeing my stuff down in one of the you know, uh one hundred year old oaks, happened to uh uh say time to yeah, it was time to to break free. Let's be fair. Yeah I didn't help it any You know what I see in the video for has become not quite a lightweight. So, I mean we were putting a lot of pressure on those as mad as we were going up and down that weekend. So speaking of that as well, is one thing that I must say. You know, between Courtney and Heather Holy Colt, are they awesome cooks? Oh? Yeah, I mean, you know that was you know, we came up there and I'm thinking, okay, well, I know, you know places we could go in Man, that first time I get in that chicken pop boy. You know that for for a dutchment like myself, Man, that in itself is absolute heaven. So but they did they they treated us so well and I absolutely left working with them. Oh, we had such a great time, didn't we met? I mean, and spending time with Aaron, who I got to know who I didn't really know outside just a couple of conversations, you know, and being able to introduce him to our area and talk about why this area is important to us and you know, sharing my and and bringing him to meet folks that are important to us, and that that part was great, and there were more people we could introduce them to. But we didn't have a lot of time, like we stumbled a lot, crammed a lot into a few days. And of course Baker didn't make a cameo in that at all, which I know a lot of people were upset about. So we're sorry that I wasn't on the email chain. We miscommunicated with Baker and but we had a great time. I would do it again, definitely, and I would do some things differently. I would probably like to have a little bit more field time. But again, what we talked about is you know when stuff are happening when you're not paying attention. That whole stuff around the campfire that night was not planned stuff. We were just going to sit there and shoot the shit and get some b roll and it ended up turning into a legitimate investigation. And I people you know, probably won't believe it, but that's that's the fucking truth. Like, yeah, that's what happened. If we were gonna do something more, we would have kept Matt there. I mean, let's be honest. You know, Gwen happened to be there with us that day. It was a long drive for her to go home, so she stayed with us at the cabin and we just sat around just wanting to have a good time and kind of talk. But it turned into more and that was really cool. You know, everybody's asked me, what do you think that was in the true I don't know. It would be easy to say a raccoon, It would be easy to say something, but when you look at the mechanics of how it moved in the moment. It didn't match up to those things. And if you watch it, I was really bothered by. Yeah, I could tell that you were bothered by it because of the fact that you're, like, I keep seeing this thing bobbing in and out behind the tree. That's it's not that it's uncommon for animals to do, no, but it's rare. It's very rare. You'd have been able to identify it quicker if it was something, But even the sizing isn't right. When you see it in the trees, that looks small, but when you see it in person, did not. Like That's that's the difference that I keep trying to expel to people, like Aaron would not have got that excited over a raccoon. Right. Also, he did one thing that nobody else ever does. His camera quit working, so he grabbed another camera. Everything we've talked about forever and preached, he did it. We only got that shot because he whipped his camera out, his phone out and got it. Like that's the other magnificent part of all that. So a lot of that credit goes to Aaron because he you know, I had thought I saw something move like an arm in that area and we've been hearing like calls back and forth throughout the night, so we were really starting to pay attention. And again, I don't know what that was, and it bothered me because it adds more mystery to that and people can tell us all day long, this is what it was, and if it is great And I think I said later on in the one episode that the thing I was proud about the most is after the high War off, we all went into debunking mode. Yep, right right, and that's what we needed to do. And I think that was telling and then being able to get out to the area where it is. When I was able to get out to my area and which I hadn't been back to since I think twenty sixteen was the last time I was there. When we went to Parker Dam that year, Matt and I had the kids there and we played the baby Crying tape. Scared the hell out of my boy Gabe and my little cousin Blake, and you. Know, we had a really Oh. It was weird to be there because it kind of brought back the feelings, but it was good to be there at the same time because I was able to process it better now than when it happened. I also, which I take full credit for and responsibility, botched the timeline on my sighting when I was telling it in the in the in the field, because I was nervous. I don't know why. Of all the times I told that story, I don't know why I was nervous telling it there, but I just kind of got some of the. Oh, maybe you just wanted to make sure you got all the facts straight and to keep yeah, all the linear information in order, right. I could understand that right. And also Dave was there, and that's the first time Dave and I have been there to that spot talking about it, so it was really kind of bringing back those feelings while I was, you know, retelling that story. And you know, the more and more I tell it, the less the less extra the less significant it seems. But it's because I've lived it and lived it and lived it other people that I hear this is like, oh my god, that's amazing. It gets less amazing anmore you tell it, you know, like yeah, but it was a very important impactful moment to me, and I was glad I was able to share it and take people back to that spot, which had been changed a little bit, but not as much as I had thought it was. I'll tell you one thing with me, and it's such a it's gonna be a really kind of weird analogy, but I'm gonna say this is the only like negative I feel about it. It's almost like a survivor's skill in like police work, or you know that you had something happen and you weren't able to be there, you weren't able to know it does when I was getting the text from you that night and I'm like, oh my god, you know, like the stars just did not align for me that because again I had the I had the high end thermal, I had the night vision. I I you know, I would let you guys go and you know, and I'm Monday morning quarterback, like you guys did everything right. I for myself, I would be probably doing a belly crawl, you know, to try to to try to go in flank whatever was out even though there was there was multiple calls coming back and forth. I would try to find that, you know, And I'm just thinking to myself, man, I. How many times did I say snakes? Man? I know, I know, because like. Like that that close yeah, I would be doing whatever I could to uh and uh. But again I think that the way that you guys were out there that was that was so perfect for you know, like I said, if you had that one extra person, but with that out having that extra person doing what you did, you had that interaction with whatever was out there. Right and you know what it was. And then going back to what we were teaching Aaron. I I told Aaron when my encounter was on the very first part of that of the last episode, and I told him, I said, I was sitting here watching this tree shake, you know, and I said, the one thing that I didn't do that you would think I would is to grab my phone to get that footage. I did it. And for Aaron to pick up on that and to and to to really you know, uh legitimately, you know, you go from camera to camera. That was that was incredibly awesome and I was so happy to see that. And I'll tell you you know, Uh, if somebody had asked in the in the comments too, would we want to do this again? Oh heck yeah, you know, I mean yeah, and you know, we'd love to have Alex with us, you know, on on one of these. Yeah myself, you know, just going into that you know, looks like they do it. Yeah, like a guy who fork. Wow. Other areas, you know, Uh, if we go you know, mid Atlantic area, West Virginia, Ohio, Kentucky, Uh, you know, New York. Yeah, that would be uh, that would be outstanding. We would love to do that. And again it's going full circle again to the beginning. It's not about the money, it's about having fun. And you know, like I said, if there were so many good people that you meet in the big Foot community and you do, you become lifelong friends. Uh, you know, not not just with us, but like you know, with Gwen. You know, one an awesome, awesome person. She was and I'm glad that she was there, although all he saw from the very beginning was her walking directly to the eyeshine. I'm like, yeah, you know, but listen, those ladies. Have balls, man. Let me tell you they are all. When this stuff happening, I was more concerned that they were going to get crazy and Aaron and I were going to be like I was concerned that they were going to go get shit done, and he and I were going to looking like pans. Yeah, because we were like I went into strategy mode and kind of like analytical mode, and these let's go, let's get out there, let's see what this is like. Ladies, come on, let's back down. Not Gwen, she's leading the charge. You know. Yeah, yeah, that's that's great. I mean, but there was so much that, you know, the editing, which was done well, by the way, I wasn't edited at a sequencer made to seem scary and stupid. It was done well. But you know, they were really a significant part of that. And you know, one of the things I talk about is celebrating the women in our field and the great work and the contributions they make. They all did a fantastic job that wee can decide from just Aaron and I and you like, we were able to introduce you know, the world to great friends, the people that spent a lot of time out there in the alleghenies. And you know, I said, I've seen the comments, and you know, I always feel bad because I don't read them. You know, Matt, I told you I wasn't going to read them anymore. And I've stayed pretty good to that. I've been good. But remember they are real people who do real things, and it takes a lot of courage to get up there and talk about your experiences and your research in a world where you're already made fun of because of what you believe in what you're doing. I'm very proud of our friends. They all showed up. Well. It was great to finally meet Paul Boggden, somebody I've heard of for years, and you know, just great to be with Jeff and Julie. I think it might have been the first through the door hug that anybody's ever done through a pickup truck with me and Jep. I'm a hugger of folks. I really am. Hopefully they're always that the evidence. I'm a hunger and I love people. It's what we do, and I think that's what really brought you know, I think brought a little difference is introducing all these crazy people in Pennsylvania that love to look for Bigfoot. There is a lot of fun. Yep, any terry you want to throw in there at all, vans on it or any final thoughts, I'm sorry, Matt, go ahead and then we'll go to vance. I was just gonna say though. There was so much and we talked about the editing. There was so much that I wish could have gotten in and again, I'd love to see in in maybe an like you know, out like a clip episode maybe you know, down the line. But yeah, this was a fantastic series to work on, and you know, hopefully we get to do it again. I hope. So I mean a lot of fun and that we're not that we're pandering, but we're pandering, but it would be great Vans. You know, A couple of things that I did take away watching what you guys did was the genuine reaction to what the experience was at the time from everybody. It was very genuine. It was very guttural. I don't know if that's the right word to use, but it was. It was very genuine and explaining to each other everybody else's experience as to what's going on. And there was a lot of correlation that meshed to make the same experience and then to move forward to try to figure out what was going on. And I couldn't. I couldn't put paws on to go in the kitchen and get a snack. I just had to sit there and continue watching. So it was very compelling as to what was happening at the time. There wasn't a day Matt and I that we didn't have fun working on that project. Yeah, and you know, of course it's leading into our book that's coming out next year's I mean, Matt and I are writing Elusive Truth, which is kind of a companion to Investigation Bigfoot. It's been moments of heat writing it and then moments of cold. But we are going to get back here out of the holidays, settling down, we can get heavy into it. I think it's going to be different than what folks are used to and I think you're going to get to know us a little bit more intimately in terms of our backgrounds and our experiences with Yeah, I mean it might be man, you're going to read a lot about some of my earlier, earlier encounters and stories from when I first got involved in this, so it's pretty cool. And then of course a lot of case study that's going to go into it too that Matt's compiling. You know, we're probably going to have a pretty pre comprehensive citing report book for in that as well. Yep, yep, well how's this Sean? You know, Scott made the comment he's not a fan of snakes either. Go ahead, Henry, I was just gonna say I also enjoy Small Town Monster is the latest episode which is about the search in western North Carolina for. Of course, film the Ancients bit with the Ancients. Right, you know, we're going to be a lot of stuff coming from these regions that I really appreciate and enjoy. And we're just glad to be a part of the ride. We really are. We love our friends and small Town Monsters. We love our audience here at Sasquatch Experience and upon which we wish you all a very merry Christmas and a happy new year. Take the time and enjoy it with your loved ones. And Henry, why don't you take us out with those with that with that. Phrase, Yeah, I'll be good, it'd be good at it. That's it, folks, for twenty twenty five. Keep on squatching. See you next year, See you next year. You've been listening to The Sasquatch Experience. Please rate and review wherever this podcast is consumed. For more information, please go to our website, Sasquatch Experience dot com. Keep on Squatching,